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I’ve just grown so tired of seeing people discuss the archie comics but they have to shit on everything before Ian came around as if everything before him was just trash, and that everything he used that was from before him was trash and unsalvagable, I mean goddamn, obviously people liked it and still do in hindsight, why is there so much negativity from people who seem to be reading old stuff just to shit on it like it’s the worst thing ever and worthy of scorn and hatred. What’s wrong with different opinions anyway.
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@LightningBolt  
Actually, you’re wrong in your assertion that Ian doesn’t get criticism, or hate, especially from Archie haters. In fact, the Anti-Archie-Sonic club on DA has some members that prefer Ken Penders’ writing over Ian’s, and accuse Ian of “ruining” the comics.
 
I see him get plenty of hate on DA now, with entire DA accounts dedicated to hating him, and Youtube videos and such spreading false information that he is a “Sally-hater,” or “SJW,” (whch I don’t “get,” because he’s not very political, and during his run on Archie, he used Sally frequently, and is a SatA.M. fan, in fact, he used her SO frequently, Sally-haters used to demonize him for THAT) so now even the SatA.M. and Sally fans ignorant of his Archie run, have turned against him, and are trying to turn the entire SatA.M. fanbase against him, and are trying to blame him why Sally & such characters aren’t allowed in IDW. (Not realizing a writer is not “God” of the comic, and can’t just use whatever official material they want without consorting with Sega.)
 
Meanwhile, none of them complain that Nack/Fang, Mighty, Ray, and certain other characters aren’t allowed in IDW Sonic either. (I miss those guys too, not just the SatA.M. characters. For that matter I also miss the Archie comic exclusives including some of Penders’ characters.)
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@LightningBolt  
I’ve seen some whom shit on anything post-#160, as well.
 
I don’t get it, because while I love Ian’s works, I like alot of the old issues too. I’m not saying every old issue, or Ian issue is perfect though.
 
In fact, Ian actually likes Ken Penders’ & Karl Bollers’ works actually. So even he respects the past issues, even the early AoStH-like ones.
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Same, it’s like those Sonic fans that insist you can only like one canon, or you can either only like the Japanese games/anime, or American cartoons/comics, and not both… It annoys me. (Also, some of the Japanese games were partially made in America, like Sonic 2, and the SA games. Also, some of the AoStH show’s overseas animation was done in Japan. So it’d be impossible to limit yourself to only Japanese/American Sonic stuff.)
 
Why do we as Sonic fans have to limit ourselves?
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@Beau Skunky  
Personally I adore the old western classic designs of Sonic, Tails, etc, and I wish that they were not all bug erased from time with the neo-classic stuff being just japanese designs only. No love for brown Tails.
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I admit, I kinda like the classic Americanized Tails design too.  
His sprite is in the recently rereleased “Tiger” Sonic the Hedgehog 3 game. (Which I got recently.) Though, it’s kinda hard to see on the old-school LCD screen.
 
Some of the American art wasn’t bad, though I do like the Japanese art too, like in “Sonic the Screensaver.”
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Try not antagonize her, she’s kinda sensitive about that.
 
I like mostly Ken’s earlier stuff, so I respect him as a writer, but not so much as a person. (Given his crappy behavior, and things he’s said. Even being happy when Archie Sonic was cancelled.)  
I mostly dislike the things Ken has said, or wanted to do, but couldn’t, like killing off Sally & Robotnik permanently, or ’shipping Sally with that skunk guy…
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@Penguin Dragneel  
Yes thanks, I obviously never heard anyone say that before.
 
Wanna tell me how Sonic 06 and Shadow are the worst games ever and how Generations is the best and the classics are perfect?
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Actually, I see alot of people bash “Generations” all the time, even back when it first came out IGN, GameInformer, and such hated it. I even got chewed out by a famous DA artist over merely discussing the game he hated it so much. So honestly, it’s not even considered a “good” Sonic game. (In fact, some of the few “Generations” fans I’ve known like Shadow & Sonic’06.)  
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one whom likes the 3DS version.
 
And I see some bash the classics too, or classic style games. There’s also the “Sonic was never good” crowd.
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I don’t play alot of video games anymore, but I still really like all the different incarnations of Sonic.  
But my absolute favorite character is Sticks.  
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Alright then.
 
Never played Shadow. Sonic 06 IS terrible, but it’s not the worst game I’ve ever played.
 
Sonic Generations is a great game, but not the best. Out of the all the Sonic games, the only 2D game in my top 5 is Sonic Mania. And no, the classic games aren’t perfect (looking at you Sonic 2 special stages).
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