Alias "futa" to "dickgirl"

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@Background Pony #0102
This site has a very, very long history with those terms.
This thread is a great place to start - 8 years ago.
And here are a couple dozen other threads devoted to the same subject.
If you look at the detailed description on each of those tags, you will also see more information about how the tags are currently used.
If you would like to do searches where there is no difference between them, you may use this search string:
That way you will find any image tagged with either of those tags.
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The issue more at hand seems to be the constant war of people tagging trans characters with futa, while the guidelines for the tag say not to use it for female characters.
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So logically the reverse should be true and the tag should not be applied if female, trans female, or any related tag is already being used for the image.
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The issue more at hand seems to be the constant war of people tagging trans characters with futa, while the guidelines for the tag say not to use it for female characters.
Please report that when you see it and we will look into it. Maybe a simple tag fix is all that’s needed. Maybe we have a tag vandal who needs to be dealt with. Maybe its something in-between. But unless you report it, odds are no one on staff has noticed it, or you’d already see people fixing it.
So logically the reverse should be true and the tag should not be applied if female, trans female, or any related tag is already being used for the image.
You have to point at an image when you ask that question. But, in general, if by ‘the tag’ you mean dickgirl, that implies futa and is used on images with female. If by ‘the tag’ you mean futa then you are right.
However - there are images with futa and female and trans female, etc, because there’s more than one character in the image.
So - if you see an image that looks like it is not tagged properly, please report it for Rule #2 and in the text field mention that the problem is that one of those tags is not being used properly.
Someone who specializes in these tags will then look at the image, and decide which set of tags is most appropriate, consulting with the original artist or commissioner if appropriate.
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@Background Pony #0102
It’s more vulgar, so it by default carries some baggage. Futa only carries a reputation detached from its actual origin (it’s just the short version of “two forms” in Japanese).
In addition, if we alias to a new word that doesn’t have the right “sound” to it, there’s a good chance that people will simply put that reputation of “it’s a dirty nasty porn thing that’s SHAMEFUL” on the new word, so maybe an alias will come some day, but not now with the words on the table.
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Dickgirl … does not have any unsavory baggage attached to it.
I thought that was the more offensive term. But, maybe that’s changed. I’m not up to speed on what all slang has been reclaimed by groups they apply to.
Regardless, on Derpibooru, it has a unique definition that means it should be used in addition to the “futa” tag, if it correctly applies to what’s in the image. (Other “futa-but-more-specific” tags: full package futa, herm)
Please report that when you see it and we will look into it. Maybe a simple tag fix is all that’s needed. Maybe we have a tag vandal who needs to be dealt with. Maybe its something in-between. But unless you report it, odds are no one on staff has noticed it, or you’d already see people fixing it.
I have one such report that’s been open for 7 days. Tags on the reported image were changed by a moderator and locked 6 days ago, but the report is still open (and I am OK with that because there may indeed be more than the one image involved).
Unfortunately, I am confused by the end state of the tags, where “trans female” was applied and “futa” was removed on a solo image - the tag description for “futa” does not define anything incompatible with being trans, only that there is a penis attached to a feminine-appearing body. But, that’s getting off the topic of this thread and I haven’t yet searched for prior discussions about the matter.
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I have one such report that’s been open for 7 days
Sorry. All I can say is that it is the holiday season, so maybe no one has had time to finish looking into it yet.
Unfortunately, I am confused by the end state of the tags, where “trans female” was applied and “futa” was removed on a solo image
I’m afraid that’s in an area that I am not able to help you. It’s very specialized area in tagging, and each image needs to be looked at, case-by-case.
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Unfortunately, I am confused by the end state of the tags, where “trans female” was applied and “futa” was removed on a solo image - the tag description for “futa” does not define anything incompatible with being trans, only that there is a penis attached to a feminine-appearing body.
Basically, the futa tag description says not to use female or any tags that imply female with it, which then implies that the character present is not female.
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This Discussion is a bit older but found it some Minutes ago and wanted to add some Details.
The Definition is alwasy a Problem on many websites, special if the most use the japanese Definition.
The Word “Futa” is the short Version of the japanese Word “Futanari”, what mean “(to be of) two kinds” and is the Japanese Version of a Hermaphrodite, a usual Female with female and male Genitals.
Usual here are this Deffinitions next to Female, Male and Genderless:
  • Hermaphrodite/Futa, Female: A Person with a female Body with Vagina and Penis
  • Hermaphrodite/Futa, Male: A Person with a male Body with Vagina and Penis
  • Dickgirl: Vulgar Definition of a person with a female body with Penis only (non-op or pre-op trans woman)
  • Shemale: A Male who has change his Body into a female Form but keeping his original Genitals (male-to-female Transsexual or Transgender Person; a Trans Woman)
  • Cuntboy: Vulgar Deffinition of a Intersex Male (Male with only female Genitals)
The biggest Problem is the Confusion some have if they call a Dickgirl or Shemale an Futanari, even none of them have female Genitals.
Usual the two kinds Part will be placed because it is a upper body of a female and a lower of a Male.
In the Search it is often a Problem to find a special gender because it is often so mixed up.
So if someone want just a Hermaphrodite in the Search, they have to look for Full Package Futa because Futa alone is to general.
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In my experience, these terms aren’t used to mean realism-adjacent depictions of trans bodies in different states of physical transitioning. They’re sometimes used as slurs to demean trans identities and trans people, but when it comes to art, people who want to see trans bodies don’t search with these terms, and people who search with these terms mostly don’t want to see trans bodies.
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@saby
We should not forget, a Gender outside of the usual Female/Male are not always artifical, and with this not Trans.
Trans in my Understanding mean Transfer, mean a Change from one Gender to anoter by an Operation.
There are natural born Persons with an different Gender.
There are estimated 0,022-0.05% or 1 of 4500-5500 of the Newborns, who are “Births with ambiguous Genitals” and they are still sorted in as People with a genetic Defect, mean they see it as Disorder/Illness and many was surgically or hormonally altered to create more “socially acceptable Gender”.
Today it is different and the Person has the right to choose what Gender they want, after they are older.
The Figures on this Page and other, who are Herm, D-Girl, C-Boy or another Gender are usual natural in that Form.
There are maybe some who are altered, by Medicine, Magic, Objects like Collars or because they have the Ability (like Changelings or my OC Nightmare Chaser), but I think the most OC here are “born” in that Look and had no need to do a Trans(fer), Trans(ition) or what ever People thing Trans mean.
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For a TL;DR from below: “futa” is the “main” go-to tag on derpi for the female body with a cock. Has the widest use around because it’s a very well known term. Dickgirl is strictly supposed to be used on images with dicked females but [visibly] no pussy. Futa doesn’t and didn’t have baggage aside from some weird whiners on the internet who want to make it so for some bizarre reason I’ll never understand. This is more-or-less in line with every other site with decent tagging practices.
To elaborate further on definitions from other sites
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/wiki/show?title=futanari
Futanari: female body, penis and vagina.
  • When in doubt between newhalf/futanari, use futanari.
For futanari with testicles add full-package_futanari too.
For futanari visibly without testicles add no_testicles.
Not to be confused with:
newhalf (female body, penis and no vagina)
male_futanari (male body, penis and vagina)
cuntboy (male body, vagina and no penis)
From wikipedia source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futanari#cite_note-krauss-2 Japanisches Geschlechtsleben : Abhandlungen und Erhebungen über das Geschlechtsleben des japanischen Volkes ; folkloristische Studien
“Futanari (ふたなり?, seldom: 二形, 双形, literally: dual form; 二成, 双成, literally: [to be of] two kinds), is the Japanese word for hermaphroditism.
Beyond Japan the term is used to describe a commonly pornographic genre of video games, comics, and anime, which includes characters that show both primary sexual characteristics. In today’s language it refers almost exclusively to characters who have an overall feminine appearance.”
Description: A participant with both a penis and a vagina.
Notes: This or shemale is required for the dickgirl on male, male on dickgirl, and dickgirl on dickgirl tags. Sex between females and futanari should not be tagged as yuri or females only. An enlarged clitoris in the shape of a penis should use the big clit tag instead. Those lacking a vagina and having testicles use the shemale tag instead (know the difference).
Slave Tags: Female - with notable synonym hermaphrodite.
Description: Girls that have male genitals but not a vagina.
Notes: This or futanari is required for the dickgirl on male, male on dickgirl, and dickgirl on dickgirl tags. Sex between females and shemales should not be tagged as yuri or females only. The inclusion of a vagina mandates the futanari tag instead (know the difference).
Slave Tags: Female - with notable synonyms newhalf, t-girl, and transsexual.
Under “Know the difference”
Dickgirls
Futanari - Penis with a vagina still present (may not be visible) on a female. If the vagina is not shown, it is assumed if the penis is shown but no testicles are present.
Shemale - Penis and testicles present with no vagina on a female. Assumed when testicles are shown whilst a vagina is not.
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And for tagging guidelines on e6 (one of the biggest sites with firm tagging rules)
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/383 (futa merged into intersex)
This tag is applied automatically by implication. Please avoid manual tagging, and instead use one of the 4 intersex sub-types listed below.
andromorph - Male based body with pussy, no penis.
gynomorph - Female based body with penis, no pussy.
herm - Female based body, with pussy and penis.
maleherm - Male based body, with pussy and penis.
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/3294 howto:tag genders This page has flow charts for the tagging.
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https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=wiki&s=view&id=2588 futanari
Catch-all term for a female character with male genitalia. Should be used instead of terms like dickgirl, shemale, newhalf, or gynomorph.
The image does not need to directly show whether or not they have female genitalia. If you can visually confirm the lack of a pussy, tag futa_sans_pussy. If you can visually confirm a pussy, penis, and balls, tag full-package futanari. If the futanari is missing balls, tag futa_sans_balls.
It is not related to transgender or hermaphrodite|intersex, but is purely fantasy-based.
A character that possesses both male and female physical traits (typically genitalia), or otherwise is not strictly a male or female. Common examples may include cuntboy, futanari, newhalf, or male futanari. This tag may also include depictions of the intersex flag.
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@Princess_Fluttershy
The definitions for the tags we have already exist. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. These definitions are in place for matter-of-fact tagging. Situational tagging like trans characters just need the additional trans tag. You also forgot about “busty boy” (guy with boobs, not moobs).
@saby
You’re right in that they don’t. They never should have. The fact that there are those who think the fantasy should conform to reality is how we got into tagging messes in the first place.
Frankly speaking, the only reason anything is an insult is because someone is taking offence to it. None of these terms are offensive in any way on their own.
@Princess_Fluttershy
The term for those born like that is “intersex”. That tag exists here already and it’s the “master”(?) tag for all these terms. Dickgirl, male herm, herm, futa, busty boy, cuntboy and others already imply that tag.
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