Religion general

@Zincy
Fruitless maybe.

Abrahamic god has no gender. The language has gender stuff in it, where certain things are dominant and masculine.

God’s existence could be more complicated to God, I don’t think so, and functionally he’d still be all powerful to us.

One explaination for gods body could be that it’s space itself. They do say all powerful and everywhere and all knowing. That describes nothing, or in a stretch of language everything.

God could have a separate body or even life. Could even have a death, even if it’s only after endless eternity’s from our perspective.

I say god is a man. Only a man would fuck everything up this hard.

Do NOT join the Mormon Church, or you WILL be sorry!

Getting sick and tired of these Ark Encounter ads. Worst theme park in the world.

Idk if God is real or not I’m agnostic

@Background Pony #85B4
Nobody has proven nor has anybody been able to prove empirically that God exists. Atheists haven’t been able to disprove his existence either. That’s why I consider myself to be an agnostic.

The language can be confusing.

Anti-theist: Thinks it’s not possible for god to exists (anti means against)
Atheist: They lack the asserted belief, but do not go against the possibility. (a means without)
Agnostic: The belief that some knowledge (particularly about god) is ultimately unattainable to mortals. This can apply to theist, anti-theist and atheist. (agnostic is the opposite of gnosticism, which is a pagan idea that you can have direct knowledge to the identity of god)

How do you go from these….

…..to this?

@SleepySteve
Religious adaptations don’t put people into cinemas like they used to. Plus Christianity is not as popular as it used to be.

I’m not sure if I’m a good Christian or not

But, whichever God there is out there, I just want to ask him one thing

That me and my friends are grouped in the afterlife

I don’t know what my future has, I don’t know if they might die or I might die. Currently one of my friends hasn’t replied for two years and got me worried.

I just… Idk

I know life is valuable and should be spent enjoying time with your loved ones and yada yada yada.

But I just want to have fun with the people I love and the people who cared and didn’t judge me in the afterlife

Like some kind of heaven where we’re all together, having fun, doing what we couldn’t do on Earth, either by physical impossibility or because we got our lives cut short.

In particular that friend I haven’t seen since 2 year was lonely and I was his only friend, he is the best person I have ever meet and I’d love for him to met my friends now… If he ever joins back to Internet…

Or me, I might get killed any day, any time, for any reason, living in a dangerous country with rampant crime, dictatorial regime and stupid police that only works against ‘dissidents’

Because it’s scary to think that you’ll be able to talk with your soulmate for less than 1 month before you get violently murdered in the streets. Or have a cardiac arrest or some shit

And… If that was completely possible, that me and my friends would be able to meet in heaven, it worries me that some of them might not make it there

I mean. 1 out of 10 friends I have are Christian, and if you ask me, as much as I love God and all that, it would suck if I wouldn’t be able to meet my friends, real nice people, that would sacrifice a limb for you, because they ‘weren’t baptised or never ate Jesus’s body and Jesus’s blood’ or something.

I guess I just have a fantasy kind of mentality, but my friends and loved ones are the most important thing I have right now.

Heaven, or afterlife without them would be like HellLite+

On Twitter, there are many conservatives and other insane people who claim to be Christian. Their methods of worshipping God involves harrassing gay and trans people, accusing them of pedophilia, and supporting autocrats and conspiracy theories.

Some of them, especially those in russia, twist family values to forcibly make families and raise children as soldiers.

If these are the loudest voices of “Christianity”, they make the whole religion look like an angry mob. They make all other Christians look as worse as them.

@Background Pony #D046
In my religion, the Big G decides who goes where and being a muslim is just a modifier that increases your chances of entering the place with good vibes. But it’s no guarantee.

Similarly that means, ppl who aren’t muslim are not completely exempt from entering.

And then there are also hadith on ppl who’s in heaven tryna pull ppl out of hell saying “ay I know xyz, they in hell right now, but he was cool tho” and they get pulled into heaven reunited with the ppl they…

And then there’s a hadith that says you will be reunited with ppl you care about.

So in essence. You’ll prolly hang out together again.

I don’t care what happens to me. If my cats are stuck in limbo i want to comfort them, and help them move on.

If you don’t know what to believe, you could always try to be the best person ever, you can prob get in good with god that way too.

I find it weird that Moses floated on the Nile for so long and somehow he didn’t get devoured by a croc.

There’s a reason nobody swims in the Nile.

I recently read somewhere that there is a “crisis in Christianity” lately in America because right-wing evangelical followers are dismissing the teachings of Jesus Christ himself as “liberal talking points”.

I’m afraid I can’t find the link to that article I read a week or two ago, but I did come across a news video today that mentions the issue: https://www.yahoo.com/news/most-un-christian-person-ever-202738863.html

@Background Pony #A43B
Many but not all christians have lost their soul.

This is why I don’t answer to the eternal bible. Any retard with an IQ above their pets age knows that no language is eternal. One could argue the bible is a tool to test ones morality at best. I still believe in god, I just believe the bible is intentionally shit to weed out the righteous from those who only want to serve themselves.

Pat Robertson once equated non-Christians to “termites” and accused them of destroying institutions he claims were “built by Christians”, whilst implying that only Christians had a desire to build civilizations.

This was back in ’86.

There are only two words to describe evangelical Christians: pure evil.

I had a debate with a very devout friend once. He used to be a pretty reasonable fellow, until he went to the glorified church masquerading as a university “Liberty”.

He critized my lifestyle at the time. This was my “roaring” days a few years ago. Full sex, drugs, and rock&roll mode.

He told me because he loves Jesus and hates sin, he’s good to go. That he “lived like Jesus”

After a particularly stupid argument, I hit him with a few questions. I asked him about a church in our hometown that installed spikes to prevent homeless people from sleeping around it. I then asked him about his own personal life.

I asked when was the last time he let a homeless person into his home, or gave away a paycheck to feed them. Or washed someone’s feet, or shielded a whore from an angry mob. I then asked him when’s the last time he did anything for the needy, aside from donating to the church.

Imma humble brag for a minute. I have participated in over 30 charity runs/marathons in my life. I was a peer counselor throughout high school and was in a youth charity club since middle. I helped renovate homes for disabled veterans. I have stood on 12 picket lines throughout my life at jobs i didn’t even work at. Been to several marches for civil rights. And while I hadn’t done this at the time, my career is dedicated to helping some of America’s most vulnerable people.

He, meanwhile, was training to be a preacher. He preached hate and anger, barely did any charity work, and the only march he had ever been in was one to opposed gay marriage before the SC decision back in the day.

I have lived more like Jesus than that jackass who sought to be a preacher.

@Zincy
I’m willing to bet that he only wanted to be a preacher so he could open his own mega-church and take in millions of dollars in tithing donations, all tax-free. Shit like this is prevalent in places like Texas.

Hell, even the Mormon church got most of its wealth by somehow convincing people to give it to them. The very top brass is living lavish lifestyles in their McMansions with their “living stipends” (that are somehow not classified as salaries, btw)…all on the backs of their unpaid lay clergy.

So much scum in American Christianity. And yet they wonder why we lose faith.

Between 30% and 40% of Americans belong to the “nones” or “nothing in particulars”. Which is a terrible naming conversation for what they actually represent.

That group is a diverse mish-mash of various identities. You’ve got your atheists and antitheists, your agnostics and aptheists all the usual. But this group also includes the “spiritual but not religious” groups, folk and Pagan religions, New age and Wiccan, and those who are still religious but dislike or outright hate churches and organized religion. The largest group of that last category, btw, are former evangelicals and catholics who still believe in God and Jesus and all that jazz, bit really dislike the church.

This goes along with the conversations from earlier in this thread regarding “republican Jesus vs liberal Jesus”.

Some editor for conservative website The Sentinel complained that the Pope told the son of a non-religious deceased father that he was living peacefully in Heaven for baptizing the kid and his three siblings.

I’m increasingly convinced that being a white American Christian is the equivalent of being a Klansman or Holocaust denier or revisionist.

Honestly if this Israel-Gaza conflict has taught me anything it’s that I made the right choice to lose my faith and stop going to church after I graduated high school.

Why would I ever want to be associated with a family of religions obsessed with apocalypse, genocide and pessimism? All I see with Judaism, Christianity and Islam is a history of misery, violence and setting back human progress and evolution by centuries. I doubt the Black Death would’ve been so bad if Christians didn’t waste their time burning Jews alive under the false belief they were spreading the disease.

Feels like the Reddit atheist stereotype has done irreparable damage to the criticism of religious people.

@TheHappySpaceman
What do you mean?

@icicle wicicle 1517
Recently, as an atheist, it’s felt like criticizing any religious crazies for persecution of people is met with the defense of “But atheists are bad too,” which is such a weak response yet seems to work every time.