Zincy 
In Vino Veritas
People often use the “Texas gives more than it takes” argument for secession. Ignoring the fact that is a poor metric for determining sustainability.
Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)
igotnopicks 
Monado User
@Zincy
Well if Texas did seceed from the Union again the US would be forced to take back all the land by force and force Texas to seperate into 5/4 seperate states.
Well if Texas did seceed from the Union again the US would be forced to take back all the land by force and force Texas to seperate into 5/4 seperate states.
Ciaran 
Senior Moderator
友情は魔法だ
Texas gives more than it takes
Only New Mexico pays less in taxes than it receives in support, so that’s not a big claim.
That said, a third of Texas’s state budget is paid for by the Federal government.
From 2000 to 2015, federal funds comprised between 29.9 and 40.8 percent of all Texas state revenue, and averaged about 34 percent … OMB reports state governments received federal grants totaling more than $661 billion in 2016. The Comptroller’s most recent Annual Cash Report estimated that 35.5 percent of Texas’ net revenue for fiscal 2016 came from the federal government Texas Comptroler
Then there’s the billions in federal assistance for Hurricane Harvey, and the 2021 American Rescue Plan Act and Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act together sent $76.7 billion to Texas. So, the Federal support to Texas may be higher now than it was in 2016.
@igotnopicks
I don’t think the US government would be happy letting a ‘foreign state’ control their only nuclear weapons assembly and disassembly facility (Pantex Plant). And I’m pretty sure Texas wouldn’t be happy having “some other country’s” nukes, military bases, naval yards, and other military installations inside their boundaries.
I don’t think the US government would be happy letting a ‘foreign state’ control their only nuclear weapons assembly and disassembly facility (Pantex Plant). And I’m pretty sure Texas wouldn’t be happy having “some other country’s” nukes, military bases, naval yards, and other military installations inside their boundaries.
People talking about secession today are just crazy. State succession, maybe. But the actual process of successfully seceding from the union, after decades of federal investment in the military–industrial complex in every state to “spread the money and jobs around” is just nuts.
BlitztheDragon
In short, the right has a better chance of making the States of Jefferson and Greater Idaho a reality than reviving the Republic of Texas.
Ciaran
Senior Moderator
友情は魔法だ
@BlitztheDragon
I mean, you could chop it up quite a bit … but … yeah.
I mean, you could chop it up quite a bit … but … yeah.
Dustcan
Dogs
Today is the 4 year anniversary of when the President of the United States told his people to drink bleach to fight COVID.
Background Human
CHS, Class of 20XX
@Zincy
In the US, yes. In the UK, they have a separate classification for dumb accidents: “misadventure”.
In the US, yes. In the UK, they have a separate classification for dumb accidents: “misadventure”.
@YourPalContrail
Hey, we found out Corn Pop was real. I’m inclined to take the crazy son of a bitch at his word.
Hey, we found out Corn Pop was real. I’m inclined to take the crazy son of a bitch at his word.
ᎶㄖҜㄩ 乃ㄥ卂匚Ҝ 
Zamasu
Conservatives 10-15 years ago: my tax bill is too big.
Same conservatives today: can somebody do something about those women, [N-word]s, gay people, transgenders, Jews, Muslims, Godless heathen atheists, pornographers, vaccines, etc.?
neutralgrey 
@ᎶㄖҜㄩ 乃ㄥ卂匚Ҝ
Accurate. They’re not even conservatives anymore, they’ve devolved into Nazis
Accurate. They’re not even conservatives anymore, they’ve devolved into Nazis
Background Pony #DC9A
Imagine being a Democrat in the 1980s. It must have been so awkward.
CaptainXtra
STOP KOSA!
@Background Pony #DC9A
You act as if politics haven’t always had weird shit going on throughout every era.
You act as if politics haven’t always had weird shit going on throughout every era.
SleepySteve 
Apples and Pears
90% of today’s problems in the world are the long-term result of the Reagan presidency, from resurgent nationalism to income inequality to global warming to distrust of democracy.
And yet, Dem elites are more favorable towards Reagan than ever, even as their young voter base hates his guts and realizes how much damage he caused.
Background Pony #7A74
Republicans coming around to support Ukraine again?
Mitch McConnell: “I think the demonization of Ukraine began by Tucker Carlson, who in my opinion ended up where he should’ve been all along, which is interviewing Vladimir Putin”.
If true that’s good news.
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