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Or maybe she could have still gone to Moondancer’s birthday party and then gone to Ponyville. She could have at least said goodbye.
It must have seemed so small at the time, but in that one act, Twilight almost ruined Moondancer’s life.
At least say goodbye.
Sort of.
It depends on how you interpret things. Maybe Celestia only sent her that letter in response to Twilight writing to her about the NMM prophecy. Maybe if Twilight had gone to Moondancer’s party, she would have bonded with the rest of the Canterlot Six. Maybe they would have become the Element bearers instead. Or maybe fate would have caused the Mane Six to meet regardless, as (for want of a better word) predicted by the Sonic Rainboom.
She was ordered by Celestia to make friends in Ponyville while looking over the preparations for the Summer Sun Celebration. It’s not like she had a choice in the matter.
@Eeveeinheat
Weird, isn’t it? There was a number of cathartic moments in the show but none felt so… depressingly sad.
hugs you I’m the same way. I’ve been hiding it and pushing it away a lot. But when I saw this episode and when she started cring I had to excuse myself and cry myself. I love this character
Same.
Ah, there’s nothing more adorable than seeing someone have a breakdown and cry over losing her friends.
Wait, what?
:D
The best kind of heresy
Sensibility? What heresy is this?
“No one even pulls a 20 degree deflection. People state how they see things as if its super obvious and how can anyone not see it that way and then walk away still thinking exactly what they thought before”
Kind of a large generalization, don’t you think? I mean me and Daniel had a discussion about Spike and slapstick, and we both ending up changing pieces of our POV about parts of it and in the end when we were done we considered both points and all was good.
“The only point in continuing to argue the point after stating your point of view in that situation is to try and convince the other person to change”
The only point? I mean I’m here not to forcefully convince you, but to provide counter-points to consider.
No one even pulls a 20 degree deflection. People state how they see things as if its super obvious and how can anyone not see it that way and then walk away still thinking exactly what they thought before. The only point in continuing to argue the point after stating your point of view in that situation is to try and convince the other person to change. (but they won’t.)
Well, I had fun, too.
I hope you have a good rest of the day.
>Implying that the only merit to these are if someone pulls an 180
If that’s what you want to see out of these, then I’m sorry, but that’s not my goal. I’m just presenting my points and countering if some agree or change their outlook then cool; I’m doing to for fun not for points or rep. But hey you’ve shown clear distant so I’ll back off and end it her.
@Background Pony #1BE5
It’s been fun chatting with you, anon, but I think it’s best to end here before something happens. Even though we disagree on interpretations, know that I understand where you are coming from with the idolization angle and I hope that you too see my points about MD’s motivations and relationship. Who knows we may butt heads some other time.
You mean the calculated insult? There’s no way she wouldn’t know the name of one of the four princesses, and the one who hurt her so incredibly badly that she broke into tears over it over a year later.
She wasn’t seeking validation from her other friends, that’s my point; ponies like Moondancer only require validcation by ones they subconsciously (or consciously) feel are superior or above them in some way, which she didn’t feel about her friends. She was finding that having friends like Minuette and the others was pleasant, not that they were giving her validation like she was seeking with Twilight. She didn’t even care when her other friends showed up at her party, meaning that she placed little value on their opinion that her party was worth coming to, and only focused on the fact that she felt spurned by Twilight not showing up.
Yes, Moondancer was reading the wrong book, IE she made a mistake. Her expressions during the scene showed that she was trying to impress Twilight, so when she failed, she turned in on herself and became slightly depressed; she didn’t praise Twilight because she just made a fool of herself (and having the entirely wrong book while thinking you had the wrong one is a pretty huge mistake).
Daring Do and Rainbow Dash’s appearances and similaries were pointed out in the episode, used for jokes, and served the purpose of getting Rainbow Dash more involved with the book (she’d be more willing to read a book about someone similar to herself, after all). This further supports my point that the writers would not make a significant new character a palette swap without it having story importance. Rainbow and Daring’s similarity didn’t have an in-story reason, but it did have an out-of-story reason. In comparison, the writers know not to make palette swaps for characters that are important on their debut, so there must be a reason for it, and as the writers have pulled off “foil of Twilight Sparkle” without it before, it was for a different reason instead. Hence, the idolization.
Yes, but Twilight has shown that she actually ENJOYs studying things, and has shown that. Moondancer has not. When Moondancer was asked why she was studying, she didn’t have an answer at all; she was essentially studying not because she enjoyed it, but because it was all she knew, and it gave her something to occupy herself in day to day life.
Yes, she’s introverted and has self-esteem, and both of those are exactly the results of someone like past!Moondancer feeling that she was betrayed and rejected by the pony she looked up to so much. She stated that she was starting to feel like she had value because of Minuette and co, but Twilight, a single pony, didn’t show up completely overwhelmed all that. That is not the result of one of your normal friends not showing up; it’s the result of someone you considered to have a much more important opinion not showing up and implicitly saying you don’t have value as a friend. She felt that she no longer needs interaction with other ponies because a related interaction hurt her so badly, and she feels inferior because the pony she idolized so much didn’t even feel her worthy enough for her to show up to her party. It’s a simplification, but an understandable one given we only had 20 minutes to flesh out the backstory. She likely brushed off her old friends because since she was hurt by Twilight, she generalized that to all close relationships, regardless of type. At Pinkie’s party, it was Twilight and only Twilight that she blew up at; she didn’t even give her other former friends the time of day except in relation to what Twilight did until she had cooled down and had her cry. It was only Twilight that she hated, and she treated everyone else with indifferent apathy.