Cartoon/Western Animation General

Apparently there’s a fandom rivalry between Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss and Lackadaisy.

As someone who is a fan of both, I don’t really understand why. Both are great, both are doing their own thing, and both are advancing indie animation and adult animation.

…Moreover, I literally heard of the Lackadaisy pilot from VivziePop tweeting her support of it, so clearly the creators have no feud with each other.

@TheHappySpaceman
At this time, rivalry between animators would be counter intuitive.

Animation is in a crisis these days. Fellow animators are thankful others are taking up the torch.

Fans always do these rivalries that most authors probably dont have. It’s childish. It’s like fans saying whether Star Trek or Star Wars is better. It’s just shallow.

Star Wars and Star Trek aren’t even the same franchise, for one. Two totally different concepts and ideas.

@TheHappySpaceman
poeple are dumb.
it’s like that two cakes meme but your getting two shows.

Did Disney really make The Beyonder a Discord-lite character?
I mean that’s not far off but

Yes, but as you said comic Beyonder is already a short hop and skip away from Discord anyway so…

Mario Movie was great. Don’t know what I was worried about.

@Lord WyrmSpawN
It being modern Hollywood with an established IP. From Japan.

@Cyborg_pony

@Cyborg_pony
Oh yeah.

made out pretty well, despite that.

I’m probably seeing something that isn’t there but the end of Owl House almost felt like a response to the end of Steven Universe.

Correction:as long as you don’t disrespect women.

@Dustcan @♥♥Princess♥♥Celestia♥♥ KEK
The worst part is that it wasn’t realistic, he was just like “*Extermination of organics is bad, don’t do bad!” and they fell to their knees weeping, like WTF

meanwhile, in real life

Dude legit wrote up the battle plan for the Manchurian invasion and 👌’d Shiro Ishii’s experiments on “the inferior Chinese logs”
Five years of palling around with the peanut farmer, and he joined forces with him and Borlaug to eradicate the Guinea Worm.
Clearly some weird as fuck Disney Princess Magic happened between those two
So yes, this kind of thing happens forrealsies…. With work!!!
Honestly wish someone would have grilled them and made a movie about it when he was still alive, it’s probably very interesting

@Niggoslav_Krawczyk

@Cyborg_pony
shut up, cyborg. nobody asked.

@Angrybrony
Simple. Those bastards done stuff to similar what homeworld did.

@phoenixacezero
yeah but what the fuck does that have to do with anything.

@Angrybrony
I thought you were wondering what they have to do with Steven Universe? What were you going “what” to?

@phoenixacezero
it dosn’t feel like it has anything to do with su. i don’t know what he’s point is.

@Lord WyrmSpawN
Yup. I Still think there are problems with the story and how it looks like it goes. A lot of said it does, a lot have said the trailers were misleading. It’s pretty hard to tell.

Still did better then Ant Man 3.

Poorly-aged Looney Tunes prediction (this was supposed to happen in 2000).

@SleepySteve

@icicle wicicle 1517
moon girl and devil dinosaur is better written than mlp so thats not fair

beyond (ha pun) that though, Discord was actually a true villain at first. The beyonder in moongirl isn’t, so discord is more malicious. I think the concept of him there to judge humanity is incredibly interesting. But i don’t think its fair to compare them because there two different types of shows with two different characters.

Beyonder beats discord in the always being pure entertaining aspect. BUT im of the unpopular opinion that Discord is more interesting after his reformation. Beyonder is just another goofy chaotic character which isn’t exactly a bad thing but I love how Discord post s2 just has so much more to him that just that. Ultimately Mlp is a show about friendship, redemption and learning lessons so discord was bound to stop just being that goofy epic villain he was in his first appearance. Him acting up and doing certain things is meant for a friendship lesson. Heck I bet if not for adult fans getting tired of reformations EVERY CHARACTER would have reformed…given the type of show it is. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur is just meant to be fun. I think Discord is more of a victim of the show he is in then of actually being an bad character. The writers have to balance a genuine storyline, discord’s chaotic nature and him growing as a person AND writers switching all the time.

This creates a disconnect with fans who are fine with his chaotic antics because reformed or not, hes still a spirit of chaos and then those who want him to be more of a good guy or to have stayed a villain if he’s gonna be such a jerk. Discord test that he does are perfect for a chaotic character but not exactly perfect for a show that teaches about friendship. Also since the test he does DO often focus on friendship such as learning not to be jealous, being confident in oneself etc. The way he acts can feel to mundane, underwhelming and/or outright dangerous and unjustified for what his goals are. In comparison to something like testing the goodness of humanity like other chaotic types do for a different kind of show.

@TheHappySpaceman
Youtube Animators being given chances at Studio budgetd is a good thing, don’t know why anyone would hate a second Animator being given that chance, if anything Viv will probably be more revered in the future if Hazbin led to a trend