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@Vlakc
 
Obama has threatened to veto it when it hits his office. However CISPA is still something that probably shouldn’t leave the legislature.

Well it’s not only in the U.S. that the constitution is treated and interpreted as the government wants, it happens pretty much in every third world country (which makes it even more shameful for the U.S. being 1st world country).
 
And, on CISPA, if anon’s summary is correct, then I think it has a much greater chance to pass than SOPA since it’s backed by big companies, who, in a capitalist system, are second only to the government in terms of power and influence.
 
I’ve already signed some of those petitions already, but since this is a ‘murrikan law and I’m not a U.S. citizen, there’s not much I can do besides signing petitions (at least, I think not but I might be wrong).
 

 
 
@AaronMk  

 
You don’t need to apologize, it’s not your fault, even less since you didn’t vote for him.

Found some more petitions and info stuff:  
http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa/  
For contacting your local state representative:  
https://www.eff.org/CISPA

@someguy111
 
We’ll see if I’ll do anything first.
 
For now I’m just bouncing about to conversations like these and apologizing for his existence. :P

@AaronMk  

 
I’m not even from your district, but if you want me to help let me know.

@someguy111
 
I know I won’t vote for Mike. Even though I didn’t vote for him last time.
 
I am contemplating fliers tapped to walls saying we should apologize for this and bring attention to the issue. Or I’m entertaining the thought.

@AaronMk  
As this is a government by the people, we have the right to kick him out of office. Ok, we can’t directly kick him out, but if we push for his impeachment, not only is there a chance he really will get kicked out, it would also send a strong message to the government that we will not tolerate these politicians or their stupid legislation and might make them shape up, lest they get shipped out. Let them know that we the people are always watching and if they try anything sleazy, like a boss supervising his employees, we will hold them accountable. Keep in mind we elected them. They are there to represent the desires of the voters, and if they do not then they are not doing their jobs which in any other context means getting fired.

Again: I am terribly sorry for Mike Rogers.

@Ebalosus  
Oh no we know full well that the constitution is pretty much viewed as toilet paper nowadays by the government.

@Background Pony
 
Yes, I know. But what about the root cause of ALL of this:
 
The complete disregard of Article 1, Section 8, of the US Constitution!
 
Seriously, the federal government needs to have the constitution amended to give themselves this power. The Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves knowing that the supreme law of the land was be as broadly interpreted as it is.
 
(And yes, the irony of a New Zealander lecturing Americans on Constitutional law is not lost on me)

So basically I found a summary of CISPA in flashcards:  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In short, it’s very bad.

Never mind, she did. All of the representatives of my state did. Of course.

@someguy111
 
I would like to apologize even deeper considering that ass-hole is from MY DISTRICT.

Dear users of Derpibooru, it has come to my attention that Rep. Mike Rogers, the one behind CISPA, is from the state of Michigan. I too am from Michigan and wish to apologize on behalf of the entire state, specifically district 8, for electing this bastard. I know I didn’t vote for him.

Can I be honest and say that I think this idiot known as Mike Rogers probably needs to get his head out his arse and maybe kicked out of office for that comment?

it still has to go through the sentate and the white house

@Ebalosus  
Thank you.
 
It’s already game over though. The Supreme Court will interpret the constitution however it wants.

Not this bullshit again.

@Klonoahedgehog  
Apathy can be quite dangerous.

Yeah i’m not worried one bit, this is never gonna pass and peopke who think it will are morons.

This sort of reminds me of another bill that the Tories in Canada tried to pass.

@someguy111  
@Whatevs
 
Your government (assuming you’re both americans) is on of enumerated powers, in that, at least according to the constitution, it only has the powers outlined to it in Article 1, Section 8. Unfortunately, these have been broadly interpreted to give the federal government the power to do as it pleases in most cases. Lord T Hawkeye outlines this much better than I can.
 
Related to the enumerated powers clause is the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, which states:
 
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
 
This means that although the states theoretically have more power than the federal government with regards to the power to govern their own affairs, they don’t have the powers enumerated in Article 1, Section 8, nor can they supersede the powers granted to the people outlined in the Bill of Rights.
 
Also, “regulate” does not mean “restrict.” It means “to make regular.”
 
If you want to know more about how the Constitution is meant to function, I suggest these videos by Shane Killian; They taught me pretty much everything I know of how your Constitution functions.
 
(And yes, I’ve signed the petition from avaaz)

@Whatevs  
Interstate!

I’m also pretty sure there’s an ammendment that states that the federal government is not given a power by the constitution then it does not have that power.
 
Ah yes, it is the tenth ammendment.  
I suppose they will argue that this is under the demesne of interstelate commerce or something.